Why are you not doing these tests on old fashioned, cast iron skillets? Cost too much?
I could take comfort in that, if attacked by by nominal .38s and 9mm rounds, a quality cast IRON SKILLET could take these rounds. Your videos do NOTHING! Those were cheap, Walmart items. An old fashioned pan made of iron could stop some handgun rounds. Against a .223 or 7.62, now that is a different story. Even though a quality cast iron skillet might stop (depending on the bullet and loads) a .357 magnum, owning such a skillet might not be a bad idea. When I was younger, I had access to a metal shop. I cut some half inch thick. square “gongs” for target practice. After I shot those targets with .223 I was horrified (clean holes). After that, I used those targets for less than .44 magnums. My friend had a .22 magnum, that put a dent more than a .357 magnum. My .44 magnum put way too big dents. I still have the targets. No more .44 allowed, but .357 down to .22LR still makes it a good long range target (sounds like a spittoon when hit). NOTE: lead and jacketing splatters, and can be very dangerous. Shoot silhouettes at a safe distance (depending on the caliber and load). Wear eye protection, and make sure of the surroundings near the targets and you. This can be very dangerous. Never shoot silhouettes with jacket ammo (that also goes for rookies targeting towards rocks, very dangerous).
So once again, own a quality cast iron skillet or two. Keep your defensive handgun in one, and that skillet in the other. Who knows, that skillet might come in handy when you need to reload.
Ouch! Our “videos do nothing”, come on that’s a bit harsh. If I sound like I’m going to backpedal all over the place, take a breath — I mostly agree with you. These were *cheap* goodwill pans, not cast iron. You may not believe this, but we haven’t had anyone donate a cast iron skillet to the cause yet (apparently those things tend to last a long time for their owners I’m in fairly good with my father-in-law, and I think he’d let me use his cast iron skillet on the same day he’d let me grill his steak. Which is to say “when hell freezes over”!
So do the videos “do nothing”, as you say. Well, for us it’s about the comparison. If you’re shooting the same pan (as we did) you can at least compare the round effects for each of the different rounds. Does it tell you everything about the round? No, maybe just a smidge of the whole story. Heck it may even not tell much of the story. We shot the car door window as a “test”. Did we expect it to shatter? Of course. Did we *add* anything to the “almanac of shooting knowledge” — I’d say a definite nope. But we had the GP 100 and the window…and it was fun.
I agree with you on the jacketed rounds and cast iron being a dangerous combination, which is another reason we haven’t gone out of our way on that yet. Maybe at a sufficiently long range with rifles, it may be interesting — it may not.
As for you last comment about “keep your defensive handgun in one…”, well I like how you think
I’ve punched holes through a frying pan at 125 yards with 9mm 115 grain FMJ rounds fired from my carbine. I was suprised to see how well the rounds were penetrating.
If you don’t believe it, try for yourself. Now, I should note that I got this frying pan from a thrift store. Also, I found that 125 yards was about the maximum distance that I could hit a target with 9mm.
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Daaannnnggg. I new a frying pan wouldn’t protect me from a rifle, but I thought it would do better than that against a pistol.
How far away was the target from the gun? And I’m assuming a fmj round was used.
You’re right, and we list that type of information up in the Round section just under the video. Here it is again though:
Round: Magtech .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ
Distance: 25 yds
Hope that answers your question
Why are you not doing these tests on old fashioned, cast iron skillets? Cost too much?
I could take comfort in that, if attacked by by nominal .38s and 9mm rounds, a quality cast IRON SKILLET could take these rounds. Your videos do NOTHING! Those were cheap, Walmart items. An old fashioned pan made of iron could stop some handgun rounds. Against a .223 or 7.62, now that is a different story. Even though a quality cast iron skillet might stop (depending on the bullet and loads) a .357 magnum, owning such a skillet might not be a bad idea. When I was younger, I had access to a metal shop. I cut some half inch thick. square “gongs” for target practice. After I shot those targets with .223 I was horrified (clean holes). After that, I used those targets for less than .44 magnums. My friend had a .22 magnum, that put a dent more than a .357 magnum. My .44 magnum put way too big dents. I still have the targets. No more .44 allowed, but .357 down to .22LR still makes it a good long range target (sounds like a spittoon when hit). NOTE: lead and jacketing splatters, and can be very dangerous. Shoot silhouettes at a safe distance (depending on the caliber and load). Wear eye protection, and make sure of the surroundings near the targets and you. This can be very dangerous. Never shoot silhouettes with jacket ammo (that also goes for rookies targeting towards rocks, very dangerous).
So once again, own a quality cast iron skillet or two. Keep your defensive handgun in one, and that skillet in the other. Who knows, that skillet might come in handy when you need to reload.
Ouch! Our “videos do nothing”, come on that’s a bit harsh. If I sound like I’m going to backpedal all over the place, take a breath — I mostly agree with you. These were *cheap* goodwill pans, not cast iron. You may not believe this, but we haven’t had anyone donate a cast iron skillet to the cause yet (apparently those things tend to last a long time for their owners
I’m in fairly good with my father-in-law, and I think he’d let me use his cast iron skillet on the same day he’d let me grill his steak. Which is to say “when hell freezes over”!
So do the videos “do nothing”, as you say. Well, for us it’s about the comparison. If you’re shooting the same pan (as we did) you can at least compare the round effects for each of the different rounds. Does it tell you everything about the round? No, maybe just a smidge of the whole story. Heck it may even not tell much of the story. We shot the car door window as a “test”. Did we expect it to shatter? Of course. Did we *add* anything to the “almanac of shooting knowledge” — I’d say a definite nope. But we had the GP 100 and the window…and it was fun.
I agree with you on the jacketed rounds and cast iron being a dangerous combination, which is another reason we haven’t gone out of our way on that yet. Maybe at a sufficiently long range with rifles, it may be interesting — it may not.
As for you last comment about “keep your defensive handgun in one…”, well I like how you think
I’ve punched holes through a frying pan at 125 yards with 9mm 115 grain FMJ rounds fired from my carbine. I was suprised to see how well the rounds were penetrating.
If you don’t believe it, try for yourself. Now, I should note that I got this frying pan from a thrift store. Also, I found that 125 yards was about the maximum distance that I could hit a target with 9mm.